General Comer c50 Price

[ant_mccaffrey]

Hi All,

My son's CRG kart runs a Comer c50 but it's not sealed and doesn't have a log book. We think he could benefit from a new engine to keep up with the other kids in his class so we've been speaking with Venom about potentially buying one from them.

Does anyone know what his current engine might be worth? Just looking for a ballpark figure if possible.

Not sure the age of his Kart. Will see if I can find that out this afternoon.

Thanks in advance!

Anthony

 

[Adam]

Hi All,

My son's CRG kart runs a Comer c50 but it's not sealed and doesn't have a log book. We think he could benefit from a new engine to keep up with the other kids in his class so we've been speaking with Venom about potentially buying one from them.

Does anyone know what his current engine might be worth? Just looking for a ballpark figure if possible.

Not sure the age of his Kart. Will see if I can find that out this afternoon.

Thanks in advance!

Anthony

Hey welcome to the forum!

Well a new un-fiched C50 costs about £650? So I would assume 2nd hand un-sealed maybe £200-300? Or even get it rebuilt and seal and keep it as a practice engine?

@VenomRaceEngines is one of our Trade Members, you can find his Trade Section below for current prices/deals etc on Bambino C50 engines, rebuilds, fiches etc. Tom gets great reviews across the board with his work, you won't go wrong with a Venom C50

I would also asks Tom's advice on what your current engine is worth. Maybe he could do some kind of part exchange etc.

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[ant_mccaffrey]

Thanks for the response, it's very much appreciated.

I had a look around the engine yesterday and found a "Shox Performance" sticker on the fuel tank so I'm going to reach out and see if they possibly know the history of this engine. It's a long shot but it would be good to be able to offer some detail to any potential buyers.

I also had a look around the chassis to look for anything that might indicate an age but I couldn't find anything. It seems in good condition so we're not looking to replace it. It was more out of curiosity.

I'll definitely be giving Tom a call back as we've heard nothing but good things about Venom. We're keen to get my sons kart at least on par with the rest of the competition.

 

[Adam]

Thanks for the response, it's very much appreciated.

I had a look around the engine yesterday and found a "Shox Performance" sticker on the fuel tank so I'm going to reach out and see if they possibly know the history of this engine. It's a long shot but it would be good to be able to offer some detail to any potential buyers.

I also had a look around the chassis to look for anything that might indicate an age but I couldn't find anything. It seems in good condition so we're not looking to replace it. It was more out of curiosity.

I'll definitely be giving Tom a call back as we've heard nothing but good things about Venom. We're keen to get my sons kart at least on par with the rest of the competition.

Worth a shot! You might possibly be able to contact Comer with an engine number, they might be able to give you some info. I think ZIPKart import them? I could be wrong tbh.

Same with the chassis, note the serial number and ping an email off to CRG. Should hopefully give you some info on age etc.

Great to hear

 

[Team13Karting]

We're keen to get my sons kart at least on par with the rest of the competition.

Just to manage some expectations here, be prepared to find out that your engine may not be up to par with some of the better ones.

The Comer c50 is not a racing engine so there are wild variances in performance. There are rumours of top level Bambino engines going for 5 figures...

In terms of an engine, even a new one out of the box needs 10 hours or so, a fiche, possibly selected carb to get the best out of it. Which obviously means added costs for practise, tyres, fuel etc.

Feel free to touch base with any questions as we've had 2 years of Bambino now. We refuse to throw money at it as there are more gains to be had later on in my little one's karting journey...

 

[Adam]

Just to manage some expectations here, be prepared to find out that your engine may not be up to par with some of the better ones.

The Comer c50 is not a racing engine so there are wild variances in performance. There are rumours of top level Bambino engines going for 5 figures...

In terms of an engine, even a new one out of the box needs 10 hours or so, a fiche, possibly selected carb to get the best out of it. Which obviously means added costs for practise, tyres, fuel etc.

Feel free to touch base with any questions as we've had 2 years of Bambino now. We refuse to throw money at it as there are more gains to be had later on in my little one's karting journey...

Great advice as always

 

[ant_mccaffrey]

Just to manage some expectations here, be prepared to find out that your engine may not be up to par with some of the better ones.

The Comer c50 is not a racing engine so there are wild variances in performance. There are rumours of top level Bambino engines going for 5 figures...

In terms of an engine, even a new one out of the box needs 10 hours or so, a fiche, possibly selected carb to get the best out of it. Which obviously means added costs for practise, tyres, fuel etc.

Feel free to touch base with any questions as we've had 2 years of Bambino now. We refuse to throw money at it as there are more gains to be had later on in my little one's karting journey...

Thanks for this. We have explained to my son that getting a new engine won't automatically get him first place. We just want to give him the best that we can afford. We're hoping to place an order with Venom seeing as their engines are fiched and have a selected carb etc. He may well show little to no improvement but at least I'll know the engines not holding him back.

How long do these engines last until a rebuild is recommended? He has a younger brother that is likely to take this kart on in the summer.

 

[Team13Karting]

Thanks for this. We have explained to my son that getting a new engine won't automatically get him first place. We just want to give him the best that we can afford. We're hoping to place an order with Venom seeing as their engines are fiched and have a selected carb etc. He may well show little to no improvement but at least I'll know the engines not holding him back.

How long do these engines last until a rebuild is recommended? He has a younger brother that is likely to take this kart on in the summer.

Herein lies the problem. Because of the motors being so wildly different, even if you buy a brand new one, give it its first 10 hours and then get it rebuilt, it's still not necessarily going to be a good motor. It's the exact reason you see the very quick Bambinos out every weekend, and sometimes during the week. They're having to put all the hours on the engine to see if it's a good one, and if not, then they just start again with another one. It's why the best engines command eye wateringly high prices as it's the time and effort that's gone into finding a good one. Unfortunately Bambino is not the entry level, level paying field class it was meant to be.

From a rebuild perspective you're looking at every ten hours, although we've had ours done after 7 as it had definitely gone off and was flat.

We've concentrated on getting the best out of the little one with the equipment he's got (which is decent but not top level) as there are more gains to be had with fewer £££ in later classes

 

[ant_mccaffrey]

Herein lies the problem. Because of the motors being so wildly different, even if you buy a brand new one, give it its first 10 hours and then get it rebuilt, it's still not necessarily going to be a good motor. It's the exact reason you see the very quick Bambinos out every weekend, and sometimes during the week. They're having to put all the hours on the engine to see if it's a good one, and if not, then they just start again with another one. It's why the best engines command eye wateringly high prices as it's the time and effort that's gone into finding a good one. Unfortunately Bambino is not the entry level, level paying field class it was meant to be.

From a rebuild perspective you're looking at every ten hours, although we've had ours done after 7 as it had definitely gone off and was flat.

We've concentrated on getting the best out of the little one with the equipment he's got (which is decent but not top level) as there are more gains to be had with fewer £££ in later classes

OK thanks for the advice. It's very much appreciated.

No doubt I'll have many more questions when we move to cadets!

 

[Wolemid]

My son has just moved from bambino’s to cadets and here is some advice which I got from our 2 years in it.

get out of it ASAP, the class teaches bad habits.

however if you stuck by age then..

Get a decent second hand motor for £700-£800, buying new is false economy.

new motor £560 - 20hrs running in at £50 per 2hrs (average price and track time per practise day) £250 plus a rebuild at say £300 you have already spent )£1100 on a motor which may turn out to be a potato.

rebuild wise. New piston every 60-70hr but new new piston ring every 12hrs.

easy to do yourself and costs about £6, just remember, put the new ring in the top, move the old top ring to the bottom and throw the old bottom ring away